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TerryGaines

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He was heavily back ended - so they might still be paying him ... :) Albeit - less than they would have.

Even tho he is at Parra.
I just hate it when that happens. It can really cripple a team that's trying to build something.

Last year the Wests Tigers were still paying for Benchy and Anasta says he's still owed money by them.

The Broncos are still paying for Ben Barber even though he ran out after just one season and all the BS about moving to Brisbane "for family reasons". Good luck with that piece of work in 2015 Sharkies!:)
 

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I just hate it when that happens. It can really cripple a team that's trying to build something.

Last year the Wests Tigers were still paying for Benchy and Anasta says he's still owed money by them.

The Broncos are still paying for Ben Barber even though he ran out after just one season and all the BS about moving to Brisbane "for family reasons". Good luck with that piece of work in 2015 Sharkies!:)


Yes - its what they do to get around the Cap - and keep players - but it can and does backfire at times. Eventually all the players come due and you have to offload some - often top players.
 

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Very strong story.

Wouldn't a very strong story be one that quotes DCE as the source and pictures him wearing a Titans Jersey? Anything short of that is surely salary pumping and news paper selling, right?

You are to be thanked for the tip :), this page is here for rumours.

Having said that, DCE has stardom written all over his league career whomever he plays for at rep or club level. He's a great ambassador for the code.

Maybe Manly should go salary pumping the Titans?...but the how much can Dan Mortimer really be worth? Or that Dave Taylor chap?
 

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Who's better: Johnson or Cherry-Evans?
http://www.zerotackle.com/nrl/whos-better-johnson-or-cherry-evans-16320/

With Johnathan Thurston and Cooper Cronk on the wrong side of 30, it won’t be long before there’s a change of guard among the NRL’s premier halves. Both Daly Cherry-Evans and Shaun Johnson came through in 2011 and have enjoyed a meteoric rise to the elite of rugby league. Cherry-Evans is the prototype for the modern halfback, he has the intelligence and technical ability to dictate a game from start to finish. Johnson is a crowd pleaser, he has the freakish ability to leave a defender in the dust with a kick of the heels. Cherry-Evans has the polished product, Johnson is the freak, but who’s better?

Daly Cherry-Evans is the halfback young players should be modeling their game on. He’s tough, clever and efficient. He can control a match with his kicking game and organisation, while also capable of providing a moment of match winning brilliance. It also so happens that one of his greatest qualities is Johnson’s greatest weakness, consistency. Cherry-Evans reminds us week in-week out just how good he is, something that Johnson hasn’t quite been able to do. The counter argument for that is Cherry Evans has spent his career as the centre point of a highly structured, very successful Manly side. Particularly Johnson’s compatriot Kieran Foran, who is a match made in heaven to play alongside Daly. Meanwhile Johnson has been surrounded by an enigmatic Warriors side. Could Johnson be consistent if he had stability and structure around him? Maybe.

Shaun Johnson is the type of player that puts bums on seats. He has the blinding acceleration, fancy footwork and footballing innovation to excite any fan. He even came home with the prestigious Golden Boot in 2014, awarded to the best player in the world, however that decision was contentious to say the least. Johnson can struggle for consistency in an erratic Warriors side but his talent has never been doubted. He’s still managed to consistently provide special moments and spearhead an always-dangerous Warriors attack. While Cherry-Evans hasn’t quite shown his best form on the representative stage, Johnson has had no such problems. He has 110 points in just 12 games for the Kiwi’s, including 6 tries. He was also man of the match as New Zealand shocked Australia in the 2014 Four Nations final.

Johnson has come into criticism for his kicking game, he can definitely put up a towering bomb and pull a forty twenty out of nowhere, but he can’t control a game with it like Cherry-Evans. Often he’ll fail to find open space on a clearing kick and it’ll put his side onto the back foot. Cherry-Evans pinpoint kicking game is a huge reason why Manly have the ability to grind out games and invaluable to their game plan. However when attacking Johnson can be just as effective as the Manly halve and forced more than twice as many drop-outs in 2014.

The Stats
Throughout 2014 Shaun Johnson scored 9 tries and laid on a further 15, Daly Cherry-Evans scored 3 and set up 16.

Johnson averaged 75 running metres, breaking an average of 2.6 tackles per game. Cherry-Evans averaged 59 running metres, breaking an average 1.9 tackles a game.

Cherry-Evans made a total of 400 tackles missing only 32, equaling a 93% success rate. Johnson made 271 tackles and missed 55, equaling an 83% success rate.

Johnson broke the line on 11 occasions and clocked 17 line break assists. Cherry-Evans broke the line on 10 occasions and helped a teammate through 9 times.

Johnson forced 21 drop-outs and amassed 218 kicks in play, Cherry-Evans forced 9 drop-outs and had 216 kicks in play.

While stats don’t tell the whole story they also don’t lie. Johnson appears to have the edge in his running and passing game, while Cherry-Evans is clearly the better defender. Johnson isn’t a liability defensively but Cherry-Evans has a better work rate and can even be considered an asset in defence. However it should be noted that Johnson’s lightning legs have him good for a couple of long range try savers a season. It’s important to remember that Cherry-Evans is often the ‘pass before the assist’ player, he has the courage to take the ball right to the line on a second man play which often grants Brett Stewart an easy ball to throw. The numbers probably lean towards Johnson but they only tell half the story.

Who’s better?
By the end of this season we’ll probably have a more definite answer. With the team now assembled around him Johnson has no excuse not to forefront a finals charge for the Warriors. Cherry-Evans will have his resolve tested as he plays in a side riddled with board problems and rumors surrounding star players, including himself. It’ll be a treat watching these two in their prime over the coming years as they provide the viewer with entertainment and their respective teams with a superstar. The stats say Johnson but the mind has to say Daly Cherry-Evans is currently the superior player.
 
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Wouldn't a very strong story be one that quotes DCE as the source and pictures him wearing a Titans Jersey? Anything short of that is surely salary pumping and news paper selling, right?

You are to be thanked for the tip :), this page is here for rumours.

Having said that, DCE has stardom written all over his league career whomever he plays for at rep or club level. He's a great ambassador for the code.

Maybe Manly should go salary pumping the Titans?...but the how much can Dan Mortimer really be worth? Or that Dave Taylor chap?

Trust me - it was a good friend ... :)
 
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To get close to making a ojective decision, you have to at least sort your decision criterion out first right?

If you decide best = biggest pay packet, DCE is best.

If you decide best by Test performance, then SJ has the Golden Boots to his credit.

If you decide by stats, it gets murky, because if you look hard enough you will always find a stat to prove any preconceived point.

For what it's worth, DCE may seem better than he is because he's better matched to the team he plays for and the way they support him.

SJ may be as just as good, but it might not seem that way as the team he plays for can leave him to do tasks outside his key strengths.

I've got no idea who is best or even if that matters. I just marvel at what both of them do and make a point of following their games. :happy:
 
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Parramatta have this week held urgent talks to secure coach Brad Arthur's future after Manly launched a secret plan to lure the Eels boss to Brookvale as early as this season.

In an extraordinary twist to the saga surrounding the future of Kieran Foran and Daly Cherry-Evans, Fairfax Media understands Manly approached Arthur to replace Geoff Toovey in a bid to convince the pair to stay at the Sea Eagles. Toovey is on contract at Manly until the end of 2016, but Fairfax Media believes the Sea Eagles were interested in Arthur starting as early as this season. The Eels, however, have moved swiftly to reaffirm Arthur's commitment to the club, holding talks with the coach this week to protect themselves from the Manly raid.

SMH
 

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Parramatta have this week held urgent talks to secure coach Brad Arthur's future after Manly launched a secret plan to lure the Eels boss to Brookvale as early as this season.

In an extraordinary twist to the saga surrounding the future of Kieran Foran and Daly Cherry-Evans, Fairfax Media understands Manly approached Arthur to replace Geoff Toovey in a bid to convince the pair to stay at the Sea Eagles. Toovey is on contract at Manly until the end of 2016, but Fairfax Media believes the Sea Eagles were interested in Arthur starting as early as this season. The Eels, however, have moved swiftly to reaffirm Arthur's commitment to the club, holding talks with the coach this week to protect themselves from the Manly raid.

SMH
What's sauce for the goose, is...
 
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Bulldogs recruit Jacob Loko and Sea Eagles winger Taufua could be facing the sack after being involved in the violent clash outside a Martin Place venue on Saturday night.

CCTV footage shows a prolonged brawl between the two long-time friends and the NRL integrity unit is investigating.
 

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Manly must be causing some of their fans a few sleepless nights. They have Willie, just signed Myles and if you can believe the tele crap have been inquiring about T Carney.
Carney can be a game breaker but his off field life has been a shocker so the silvertails must be desperate .
 
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TerryGaines

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Manly must be causing some of their fans a few sleepless nights. They have Willie, just signed Myles and if you can believe the tele crap have been inquiring about T Carney.
Carney can be a game breaker but his off field life has been a shocker so the silvertails must be desperate .

1. Mason has a one year contract only. I expect him to make way for one of the NYC mob.

2. Carney is not registered to play in NRL so far as I know. As posted previously, I didn't think Carney's last episode was that bad. He didn't cause harm to anyone else, unlike others we can think of. But still, it was in poor taste.

3. Manly fans are aware
(a) we have ten players out with injury - many returning soon,
(b) we've had worst starts to the season than this and still made the play-offs,
(c) only four comp points separate 5th and 16th place so it's early days,
(d) Manly, unlike many other teams have never picked up a spoon as any point in their 60 year history.

Still, I would a appreciate a win tonight, as that would bump us to 10th.