Rugby League Round 10 - Saints v Newcastle (Home ?)

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Supposedly a home game that we play away.

With our play todate we'll be lucky to win this one. Thankfully its Newcastle - but still a hard one.
 

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They still seem stuck on the two wingers who don't seem to understand defence. Interesting to see our two young wingers - now playing for Manly and NZW - going so well.
 
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The Knights played very well to get the points this weekend.
They will be looking at a win against the Dragons after feeling a bit robbed last time out (it is really stupid of the nrl to have teams playing each other twice when they haven't played all the sides yet)

The Dragons on the other hand might surprise us.
They might try playing poorly in the first half and get their act together in the second.
 
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They still seem stuck on the two wingers who don't seem to understand defence. Interesting to see our two young wingers - now playing for Manly and NZW - going so well.
It doesn't surprise me at all.
There is something rotten at the Dragons with in house coaching( not just the coach )methodology and those that go to other teams often prosper under and outside coaching style.
 
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Supposedly a home game that we play away.

With our play todate we'll be lucky to win this one. Thankfully its Newcastle - but still a hard one.
could have been worse for us. we might have played as well as Parra has been and then get flogged this weekend rather than just beaten.
 

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It doesn't surprise me at all.
There is something rotten at the Dragons with in house coaching( not just the coach )methodology and those that go to other teams often proper under and outside coaching style.
Yes - not sure what thing is about Coaches have to come from inside.
 

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Not sure what to make of Mary's changes in games. Zac going well - scores a try - and is our kicker. We replace him with loads of time to go - with a player who is not performing and is not great in the D.

We've let 2 good players go - Herbert and Garrick - nothing special - but both solid - and replaced them with 2 players who at times appear to lack basic knowledge of the game.

I really feel our major issue is the Coach. They are a good squad - albeit with some crucial injuries and suspensions. BUT - still - if you have a 12 or 14 point lead you should be able to go on with it.
 

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I really feel our major issue is the Coach. They are a good squad - albeit with some crucial injuries and suspensions. BUT - still - if you have a 12 or 14 point lead you should be able to go on with it.

Not sure you can lay all the blame at Marys feet.

Apart from Bennett the Dragons have virtually always used in house former players as coaches and the same problems with the game has persisted for years.
They might hit some form for a few games and then find new ways to lose as other teams find answers to the Dragons play.
The Dragons cant or wont adapt.

Instead they always fall back to the same stand and wait or defend on the retreat defence hoping if they finish on their goal line they can defend that.
It works for a little while then the swiss cheese opens up.
Their attack becomes one out no pass, no offload die with the ball running.
As they become more frustrated discipline and handling flies out the window so they give away penalties and easy field position..

They have now become very a good forty minute side only excelling lately when they line up against the Broncos.
Guess they all remember Langer singing Saints can play so they have a reason to play 80 minutes.

We only played the Knights a few weeks ago and just scraped home so it should be another interesting match up.
 

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Not sure you can lay all the blame at Marys feet.

Apart from Bennett the Dragons have virtually always used in house former players as coaches and the same problems with the game has persisted for years.
They might hit some form for a few games and then find new ways to lose as other teams find answers to the Dragons play.
The Dragons cant or wont adapt.

Instead they always fall back to the same stand and wait or defend on the retreat defence hoping if they finish on their goal line they can defend that.
It works for a little while then the swiss cheese opens up.
Their attack becomes one out no pass, no offload die with the ball running.
As they become more frustrated discipline and handling flies out the window so they give away penalties and easy field position..

They have now become very a good forty minute side only excelling lately when they line up against the Broncos.
Guess they all remember Langer singing Saints can play so they have a reason to play 80 minutes.

We only played the Knights a few weeks ago and just scraped home so it should be another interesting match up.
If you can play a good 40 - you can play a good 80. Its simple.

They do miss JdB and Widdop. BUT - a few need to step up - or step out.
 

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If you can play a good 40 - you can play a good 80. Its simple.

They do miss JdB and Widdop. BUT - a few need to step up - or step out.
It sounds simple BUT to play the first 40 well maybe they get too tired and have lactic acid build up in the sheds at half time or they need to change their energy drink.
Whatever the cause of their game plan falling apart or being woken up to by the opposition they need to adapt and quickly or they will be looking at the "choker" tag
 

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It sounds simple BUT to play the first 40 well maybe they get too tired and have lactic acid build up in the sheds at half time or they need to change their energy drink.
Whatever the cause of their game plan falling apart or being woken up to by the opposition they need to adapt and quickly or they will be looking at the "choker" tag
Its not "choking" - they just shut-up shop. Not sure why. I do feel its a mental thing.
 

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Dragons: Paul McGregor has opted against changes as the Dragons aim to snap a three-game losing slide. The only possible alteration will be Korbin Sims being elevated to the final 17-man team after he was named as a reserve, but the uncompromising prop has to prove he has recovered from a broken arm.

Knights: Three wins on the trot has given Nathan Brown the luxury of some stability and he has named the same 17 which took care of the Bulldogs in the Magic Round on the back of Ponga and Pearce's brilliance. The last time the Knights won four in a row was the opening four rounds of 2015.
 

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Its not "choking" - they just shut-up shop. Not sure why. I do feel its a mental thing.
we can call it anything but the facts remain the same.
Everyone knows they can, could, should but don't do better.

J Graham is a real leader for the first half
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The Dragons need a spur to keep up the effort in the second half.
With Widdop wanting to go home the Dragons should give a bit of thought to taking up Maloney for the remainder of the season. especially if the Choccies pay a large part of his contract.
He might be aging BUT he did the impossible and got the sharks a premiership.
 

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we can call it anything but the facts remain the same.
Everyone knows they can, could, should but don't do better.

J Graham is a real leader for the first half
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The Dragons need a spur to keep up the effort in the second half.
With Widdop wanting to go home the Dragons should give a bit of thought to taking up Maloney for the remainder of the season. especially if the Choccies pay a large part of his contract.
He might be aging BUT he did the impossible and got the sharks a premiership.
How many halves do we need ? I think we have to have a serious look at our squad and make some "hard" decisions.
 

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How many halves do we need ? I think we have to have a serious look at our squad and make some "hard" decisions.
Given the Dragons injury record with halves over the years we can probably not have enough.:banghead:
Its been a littany of problems going back to when Billy Smith was moved to the centres. knees, kidneys, physical injuries including broken legs, dislocated shoulders and of course some just couldn't tackle or didn't fit in but went elsewhere did very well.
Others played very well for a game or two then faded away once the press said how good they were.

I am predicting a big change in effort for this game against the Knights as some have a lot to play for ….as a team.
 
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Given the Dragons injury record with halves over the years we can probably not have enough.:banghead:
Its been a littany of problems going back to when Billy Smith was moved to the centres. knees, kidneys, physical injuries including broken legs, dislocated shoulders and of course some just couldn't tackle or didn't fit in but went elsewhere did very well.
Others played very well for a game or two then faded away once the press said how good they were.

I am predicting a big change in effort for this game against the Knights as some have a lot to play for ….as a team.

I'd like a win ... :)