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Saints only needed a point to secure the League Leaders Shield, but they are being given a lesson by a very impressive Warrington side tonight at home. And the Monaghan brothers are still bloody excellent players. Michael is retiring at the end of the season, but is playing as well as he ever did. Meanwhile Joel is currently the league's top try-scorer.

Castleford Tigers still have a chance to finish top.
 

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Yes, very good. Saints have injury woes (shortage of halves! Lance Hohaia has not been especially successful in England, unlike Luke Walsh, who was terrific before his injury), but Warrington were very good indeed. Those Monaghans... Any poor Raiders fans watching would wish they still had them both. JM, whatever his sins, has scored 118 tries in 113 matches in England, an incredible record however you look at it.
 

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Yes, very good. Saints have injury woes (shortage of halves! Lance Hohaia has not been especially successful in England, unlike Luke Walsh, who was terrific before his injury), but Warrington were very good indeed. Those Monaghans... Any poor Raiders fans watching would wish they still had them both. JM, whatever his sins, has scored 118 tries in 113 matches in England, an incredible record however you look at it.

Hohaia is a class hooker. But at 6 or 7 he is ordinary.
 

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Yeah, you're right. Trouble is, Saints already have a class hooker (James Roby). It's halves they need!
 

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Yeah, they fell over the line somehow! Now for the important stuff!

Actually, I meant to ask before, SJ, if you see people wearing Saints shirts at SGI games, I saw a guy in a SGI shirt at the Challenge Cup Final, so said to him, looks like you're not going to make the eight, then. But he turned out to be a a Saints fan, and hence not too bright, cos he muttered something about Wigan not making it either (as if!), so I pointed to his shirt, and said, no, St. George!
 

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Yeah, they fell over the line somehow! Now for the important stuff!

Actually, I meant to ask before, SJ, if you see people wearing Saints shirts at SGI games, I saw a guy in a SGI shirt at the Challenge Cup Final, so said to him, looks like you're not going to make the eight, then. But he turned out to be a a Saints fan, and hence not too bright, cos he muttered something about Wigan not making it either (as if!), so I pointed to his shirt, and said, no, St. George!

I don't always look that close ... :)

But - was walking along in the USA one day - San Fran I think - and was wearing my Saints Members hat. Out of no-where came this loud voice - UP THE SAINTS !!!

Made us all smile - you can't go anywhere without meeting a Saints fan ... ;)

Your "friend" may have done my trick. The Swans in Sydney (AFL) have taken the same colours as Saints. They were a transplanted Club - South Melbourne. Anyway - one time in Melbourne I found a sale on and they had this Swans jacket/coat - awesome - very warm - I call It my doona - and it had one little Swans badge on the breast pocket area. VERY cheap and really great on cold nights. I just cut off the Saints badge from an old jersey and had it sewn onto this jacket - over the Swans badge. People use to ask where I got it from as it wasn't the usual Saints one.

Did the same with a jacket I bought on Ebay - red jacket - white leather sleeves. They use to be about once. Had a badge/crest sewn on and it looks great - at the footie. You wouldn't believe the number of people who stop me to ask where I got it from. Had one for my son done too. I think they're called College jackets in the USA.
 

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I know what you mean by College jackets.

I think I'm going to have to arrange you a visit from the Taste Police goon squad... :p

But to respond to your point, there's no way an SGI shirt in the UK would be cheaper than a Saints one, so cost would not have been the motivation. Of course I was expecting him to be an Aussie (plenty of them in London, after all), but he wasn't. In fact, thinking about it, it didn't look like the 'standard' SGI shirt, but one of those fancy special edition ones.
 

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I know what you mean by College jackets.

I think I'm going to have to arrange you a visit from the Taste Police goon squad... :p

But to respond to your point, there's no way an SGI shirt in the UK would be cheaper than a Saints one, so cost would not have been the motivation. Of course I was expecting him to be an Aussie (plenty of them in London, after all), but he wasn't. In fact, thinking about it, it didn't look like the 'standard' SGI shirt, but one of those fancy special edition ones.

I must admit - I only wear it to the footie ... :)

But - as I said - so many ask where it came from.
 

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I see Saints have pinched Travis Burns from Hull KR to team up with Luke Walsh again. Have to say I rate Walsh quite a bit more than Burns; always did when they were at the Panthers.
 

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I see Saints have pinched Travis Burns from Hull KR to team up with Luke Walsh again. Have to say I rate Walsh quite a bit more than Burns; always did when they were at the Panthers.

Gould has shown at Penrith - you don't have to have the top "stars" just good solid 80 minute players. They may not win - or get to - the GF - but they are surely the team of the year on achievement this year - imo.
 

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Well, I guess if you win the League Leader's Shield...

But I may be biased, but I don't see too many in their squad I'd want in the Wigan team. Walsh and Makinson, maybe (although I can't see I'd drop Smith or Charnley for them). Burns has already found out that, fortunately, refs in England aren't prepared to take the lip he dished out in the NRL, and won't hesitate to use the yellow card to make their point.

And hey, I'm as big an admirer of Penrith's efforts this season as anyone, and I wish them all the best. But perhaps the best coaches are those who can take those '80 minute players', and make stars of them.
 

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St Helens head coach Nathan Brown will leave the club at the end of the season and return to Australia, keen for an NRL return after missing out on the Wests Tigers top job.